I have considered going to a bag, especially one that is able to be locked. A One-Time Donation (You choose the amount): A $5 Dollar bill, a €5 Euro bill, a few Pre-1965 silver dimes, or a booklet of “Forever” U.S. postage stamps sent in the mail also works! The third holster is a full Kydex outside the waistband (OWB) holster with retention made by a small business, Carey Concealment. And now with this G3C coming out, Taurus warrants some serious consideration. It’s just an entirely different class of handgun for a different purpose, in my opinion and for my uses. You can be protected by the biggest arsenal, but in my mind, if your own local government is against you, you are at a disadvantage. ©2019 SurvivalBlog.com - As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases. It checks many boxes concealed carriers are looking to check, comes in at a decent price, and so far has been reliable in testing. More competition in this size of gun is great for the industry, I’m sure. Well, it will be soon. That, folks, means 12 to 14 rounds, if you carry one loaded in the chamber and a full mag. Let me know if you’re interested. Good move on the G19’s I think, I really like them and its a good idea to be as self-suffiecent as possible. Ads are what helps us bring you premium content. Maybe a 4th point – I have an F6F Hellcat mouse pad. The Hellcat comes with two magazines—an 11-round mag that fits flush in the grip and a 13-round extended mag. The Taurus feels much slimmer, which could be a huge plus to some. The trigger of the Hellcat was a great aid in accuracy testing, along with the RSMc red-dot sight. James Wesley, Rawles (JWR) is Founder and Senior Editor of SurvivalBlog, the original prepping /survival blog for when the Schumer Hits The Fan (SHTF). The second holster is a pocket holster from Don’t Tread On Me. And with an available 13+1 cartridge capacity, you will be hard-pressed to do better. I am in no way affiliated with Springfield Armory. The SIG P365 uses a traditional rounded trigger, but flat-faced triggers are available. Download the LBRY app, today! The flat faced Hellcat trigger allows the break to come while the trigger is well forward that of most curved triggers. Got over the 1911 in 1968. Thanks for the reply. They now make a cpx-3 in .380 I know nothing about them so your guess is as good as mine. Usually, with a pistol this small and light, accuracy testing is an ordeal, and tests the shooter as much as the pistol. The flat bar trigger has a nice break, a positive reset, and measures at 7lbs. Nice setup! We really like the feel of the flat trigger on this platform, and the relatively short, crisp break. Second, and more concerning, they couldn’t keep up with that demand and their spare magazines are hard to find. The rear sight is drift-adjustable and features a U-notch with a white outline. It is a quality holster, it protects the gun, conceals it well, and doesn’t cause my back to sweat profusely during summer carry. Please let others know they too can trust SurvivalBlog for the most reliable and practical survival information by voting for SurvivalBlog on topprepperwebsites.com. All features that people pay to add or acquire, but are standard on the Hellcat. I like to keep three or four magazines at least. Then migrate to the libertarian blockchain-based alternative. The Action Enhancement Trigger for the Hellcat pistols is the easiest, quickest upgrade you can do to the trigger system that significantly improves the feel of the trigger pull, without reducing factory safety values. The Hellcat, besides being equipped with a trigger-lever safety, has a passive striker-block safety that is deactivated to allow the striker to move forward and strike a primer only if the trigger is pulled. I had purchased 150 rounds of Winchester 124-grain FMJ for my first range day, as well as a box of 20 G9 “external” hollow points. I know it is risky to buy a handgun the first year it comes out, but I have a good feeling about the Hellcat. Love the idea of the constant “urban” survival bag that goes everywhere with you. Yes! Much as we like, enjoy, and prefer to shoot mid- to full-size handguns, the truth is that they are not always practical for everyday carry and they certainly are not the optimal choice for concealed carry. In fact, at my gun store, the P365 spare magazine had been replaced by a voucher from SIG for a free magazine mailed to you when their production caught up. The SIG on the other hand, while it felt amazing, felt a tad more slender in hand and I had to slightly adjust my grip to activate the slide release. I have average size hands, only a glove size large, and I can reach all controls without adjusting my grip, yet it felt solid and reassuring in the palm. At this point in my experience, I don’t really understand the trigger conversation beyond heavy and light triggers. Box 303 The answer was no for me. Jim is the originator of the American Redoubt movement and a frequent talk show guest on shows such as Alex Jones. His survivalist novel Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse, is a modern classic that reached #3 on the New York Times bestsellers list. So any way the Sccy cpx-2 was not made for +powder ammo it say’s so in the book , they will shoot hollow points but it is picky and not recommended, it is a basic gun made for entry level people, mine has fired every cheap 9mm ammo I have feed it and never jammed or misfired. I did just finally finish my AR, which somewhat fills that modular, repairable role and is also why I only use Mossberg shotguns. The SIG’s slide serrations are deeper. Thank you! So, does the Springfield Hellcat satisfy the overall performance quotient for the serious EDC/CCW practitioner? by Wayne van Zwoll…. I was also impressed by the added value of the Hellcat. There’s no frame safety either. Are you tired of YouTube censorship? A quick word about magazines: While the SIG P365 currently has the largest capacity extended mag, it has been difficult to find! The Hellcat™ employs a proven trigger safety mechanism that is used in many of today’s most trusted firearms. Hey Anon 2. I attached a picture from after my range trip that I believe shows this detail. When fitted with the flush 11-round magazine, the grip offers the expected two-finger wrap, meaning the pinky finger is left to curl below the grip. It is sleek, finished in Melonite, and has some interesting serrations at the rear and forward of the ejection port. We never experienced this problem when shooting the Hellcat, but when purposely testing this operation, it was clear that the thumb could certainly interfere with last-round-fired lockup. This kit helps to smooth and lighten the Hellcat’s trigger pull to about 4.25-4.5 pounds. Ideally, having some full size Glocks for interchangeable parts and wider availability of parts is really wise. Sccy started with the cpx-1 ,It was discontinued due to the pins walking out of the frame. It is crucial to get the alignment correct. and my bear medicine the XDm 5 1/2 10mm with BB hard cast rounds. They are marketing themselves as a total outfitter. The question we had before getting our hands on the Hellcat was the same as we always have before testing a micro pistol—how will it feel in the hand? We would consider the trigger to be average compared to other sub-compact pistols. The slide serrations need more bite for positive engagement and they just do not dig into my skin the way that I like them to. The Hellcat for me fills what I suppose I would call a “Civilized concealed carry” role. It seems comparable to any other pocket holsters and I use it when I am carrying the Hellcat in a jacket pocket or a backpack pocket. To make a long story short (why start now?) We’ve been trying to do the same thing for a year but aren’t having any luck on finding a job. 600 rounds in, it still would not feed hollowpoints reliably, with about one malfunction in every 50 rounds. What a relief it would be to have that thing when you need it most. Shoots really well. but having been recently bitten in that category by the Sccy CPX-2, I opted to stay away. It certainly outperforms my ability and I have plenty of room to grow into it. First off, with the included extended magazine, the Hellcat holds 13 rounds of 9mm in an incredibly small package, and 11 rounds in its standard flat base magazine. And SIG, Glock, and Springfield Armory are all very widely-recognized as reputable brands. Perhaps it is because my pockets are not huge, there is not much space in there! The bag also holds a small bottle of hand sanitizer, knife, pen and pad, multi tool, lighter, coin change (I hate change in my pocket), car keys, a water bottle, spare handkerchief, etc. Our mission is to provide readers with compelling content that is both relevant and valuable to the modern outdoorsman/shooter. This also falls on research what your buying before you do, Would I buy a new cpx-2 ? Of course, positive results always amp up the satisfaction factor. The trigger shoe is flat-ish. I looked at this two ways: First, it means their product is in high demand, which is usually a good sign in my opinion. I would like to comment on the Sccy -cpx2, yes it is a budget gun but if you know what to look for they work very well. The Springfield Armory Hellcat is manufactured using a black melonite coated machined steel billet slide that features a loaded chamber indicatory, a set of tritium powered U-Dot tactical sights, a hammer forged 3" barrel and an optics-ready cut rear slide deck for micro red dot sights. Search for: Search. Intended, we’re sure, to go up against Sig’s P365 and, to a lesser degree, the Taurus G2c, the Hellcat is a striker-fired, polymer frame 9mm freshly designed by the folks at Springfield to address all the elements serious shooters desire in a carry-it-everywhere defensive handgun: No doubt, bringing all these design and performance features together in a single handgun that is highly concealable and comfortable to carry is a tall, tall order. I haven’t seen a single one without it. The first pistol I bought was a Springfield SD in .40 caliber. I set up my target at a conservative seven yards and got to practicing. When properly installed, this drop-in trigger will: – … That’s only $0.10/day for some of the finest Survival/Prepping content around! I appreciate your thoughts and hearing about your experience. With a recent addition to the family, identical twin girls (pray for us! no i would not , but the early version I have was the best $200 including tax I ever spent. Sounds like a slam dunk to me. Continue with Social Media: No account yet? He is also a retreat consultant specializing in off-grid living, rural relocation, and survival preparedness. Home; Store. I also like to carry a micro-compact aka sub-compact. As for the Hellcat trigger’s function, no complaints here. The flat faced Hellcat trigger allows the break to come while the trigger is well forward that of most curved triggers. Username or email * Password * Log in. Shooting a variety of handloads along with Black Hills 124-gr. Unlike many (or most) pistols that limit stippling patches to the backstrap, sides, and front of the grip, Springfield wisely covered the Hellcat grip 360-degrees with what it calls “Adaptive Grip Texture.” Not sure what is “adaptive” about it, but it does a fine job of preventing grip slip. “My European carry-all!” I haven’t thought about that Seinfeld episode in years. The pre-started trigger pin should face the other vise jaw. This texturing is also included on the area where the thumb lays across the frame (left and right side) and on the support hand thumb recess forward of the trigger (also left and right side). Check out our full review here. It comes with a non-proprietary rail system that any manufacturer can make parts for. I enjoy outdoor activities like disc golf, hiking, and hunting, and this holster has so far handled everything I have thrown at it… and kept my gun in place! Preparedness Notes for Wednesday — July 29, 2020. I bought 2 – I’m not sharing with my wife lol! We didn’t have too much by way of possessions and the wife was able to convince her work to let her try remote. That it is not testifies to the design and engineering challenges to make such a handgun. All good points! The flat-faced trigger feels excellent and makes the trigger feel crisper than it probably is. Sig pulled it off with the P365, which delivers 10+1 capacity in a diminutive profile. Welcome to Shoot-On.com - The outdoor and shooting industry's premier source of up-to-date news, media, entertainment and new product information. Very similar. Our mail forwarding address is: James Wesley, Rawles Just order a XDm 9mm competition as my race gun. Additional hand-positioning assists come via the slight finger grooving on the front of the grip and the thumb shelf located above the magazine release button. I would have loved to have kept it though. I have included photos of all three holsters. The sighting system for the Hellcat is about as “general purpose” as they come—meaning “works well in most conditions.” We say this in a good way. I have used it for traditional pocket carry, but I am just not a fan of pocket carry. S.A. has two weapons I do not care to own, the Hellcat and anything 1911. When pulling the slide from the back, the rear serrations offer plenty of grip for two-finger operation. Eventually found a job way outside my skill set as an apprentice carpenter for 2.5 years until I found my current teaching position. Micro-pistol—which is how Springfield classifies the Hellcat—and “high cartridge capacity” tend to be mutually exclusive concepts. There is one other detail that led me to choose the Springfield, proprietary design. I found that I could conceal easily when wearing 2 shirts (a sweatshirt with a tshirt underneath) but summer was a problem with printing. I prefer a firearm company that allows others to manufacture replacement parts and upgrades. A quick note, the eleven round magazine came installed with the pinky extension and a flat base option. On another note, this is not a catastrophic failure such as a broken striker or spring. One shouldn't have to mod their Hellcat trigger to make it work properly- Springfield should address it. The new Heritage Barkeep revives the short-barrel SAA legacy in a feisty .22 LR six-shoote…. Thanks for the input, love the XDe .45 and the full size XD. All the best. It’s a sub-compact pistol designed for concealed carry. So if your gun goes down, you have to send it in the company. Keith says: February 20, 2020 at 09:58 . The Hellcat’s flat trigger body and nickel boron-coated trigger group provide a consistent trigger pull. Excellent point. That was a reassuring feeling. The Daily Web Log for Prepared Individuals Living in Uncertain Times. The Springfield Armory Hellcat is a polymer frame striker-fired micro-compact semi-automatic pistol sold in the United States by Springfield Armory, Inc., and manufactured in Croatia by HS Produkt. It has a loaded chamber indicator which is discernible visually and you can also feel it. Did Springfield achieve these goals with the new Hellcat? I confess to a little bit of brand loyalty since I have owned a Springfield XD9 for several years that I love. Is this a term yet? The Hellcat also features a flat-faced trigger with a Glock style tab. I expect their offerings for the Hellcat to expand quickly. Don’t get me wrong I’m a Springfield Armory owner (5 and counting) and EDC the XDe. It is something you need to experience to fully appreciate, but be warned…once you do, you will not look at a micro pistol with a curved trigger the same way again. Springfield Armory Hellcat OSP Specs. My thought process came down to: is this THE gun, the one gun if you could only have one, that you would trust your familie’s lives on? Create an Account. Everything SIG designs, they seem to want to keep “in-house”. Remember when the Hellcat first came out and always just liked the look of it for some reason. Were it not so, the market would be flush with handguns meeting these criteria. We have no reason to say it does not, or that it even falls short in any particular area. This is why micro, sub-compact pistols and lightweight snubbie revolvers continue to be the premiere choice of dedicated CCW and EDC practitioners. The Springfield Hellcat Handgun become the world's one of the best shooting guns. I know some budget guns can be extremely reliable (my mossy Maverick is going on 10 years strong!) You can simply pull the trigger again. There were no malfunctions or misfires with either rounds. The Hellcat’s magazines hold more rounds in their comparative sizes (11 and 13) and are still widely available. It comes with a spare 13 round magazine. This part of the article will be brief. c/o P.O. I prefer the familiar feel of the Mod.2’s curved trigger, but the Hellcat’s flatter bang switch is touted as a feature on the SA website. The Hellcat has a feature that may contribute to reliability, but I am not experienced enough to know. Hopefully the interesting times in the future will at minimum feature more sleep…. It comes with a non-proprietary rail system that any manufacturer can make parts for. Filling a void by providing items that might not otherwise be produced. Carefully align the holes. For my “protection” battery of guns, I began with a Sccy CPX-2, which may be a review for another day. ), the feeling of being underpowered grew. It is usually not about long-range, high ammo count gun battles, much as we like to be prepared for that scenario. Dan Z for TTAG. Interchangable parts. I like the feel of the pinky extension, so i left it. ￼ So I sold that gun and went back to my “ol’ reliable” revolver, a Ruger LCR in .38 Special. I will stick to the feel of the gun and its performance, and avoid conversations about “grouping” since it was not impressive from my hand. For small-frame shooters or those with weaker hands, the slide serrations extend over the top of the slide to provide a solid purchase when gripping the slide overhanded, such as when you pull the slide back to lock it in place. I was a huge fan of the U notch rear sight. I carry this one, slightly between behind the back and strong side, where I can still conceal the weapon but it is easy to draw. Mine came down to just that: a price to features analysis. The efficient use of space on this gun is something you have to see to believe. I find this position comfortable and easy to conceal. A full length guide rod and dual active recoil spring ensure reliable operation and a smooth recoil impulse. When you review the historical offerings of micro and sub-compact pistols, you must admit that we have come a long way. I settled caliber for capacity on this one. This pack contains over 5,500 open-pollinated seeds and 2 pints of grain, all packed for long term storage. On the contrary, for a full-feature semi-auto that can fit in most pockets, this little dynamo stands tall in a very small group of contenders. He began SurvivalBlog in 2005. Do not like the Hellcat because of the size and the one I shot had no blade safety on it. You have some interesting times ahead. The 3″ barreled micro compact pistol features a class leading capacity of 11+1 with a flush … When personal defense and…, This afternoon project will put a custom spin on that short-action Remington 700 sitting i…, If you’re ready to invest in the ultimate hunting crossbow, look no further than Ten…, Numbers, acronyms, and hyperbole don’t help you hit. It is no problem if you are used to shooting micro pistols, although shooters with large hands may find it slightly uncomfortable. Incredible guns. Be it new tactics for hunting or customizing your firearm - we cover it all! It is easy to see and quick to get on target. While this can be a good thing (you know your parts are always going to function together, because they come from the same manufacturer and are designed to do so) it is concerning to me in the area of availability. Point, click, and it highlights the azimuth? I do not have an extensive collection. They’ve been a handful so far, especially considering the 2YO we already have. If I saw one for cheap and had the money, I’d probably buy it. Sights: For my old eyes the Hellcat sights are much faster to pick up and seem more than adequate for defense purposes. If you are a trigger snob, it’s important to keep in mind that this pistol isn’t designed to give you the same feel as a custom 1911. After a good soak in gun oil and a good cleaning it still functions and the only rust is on the side of the rear site. Thank you for a well-written review on this firearm. The P365 proved you could take a tiny gun, and cram ten rounds into it and have it take up the same space as a single stack 9mm. From an ergonomic perspective, we think it would be challenging to develop a better design that so successfully blends comfort and function in such a small package. Liked the feel of the longer grip of the XL, like the feel of the flat trigger, longer barrel (about a 1/2”) and cut out for optics. The venerable 1911 is built for duty, but reliable performance and a long service life is …, The latest on-the-move firearm from Rock River Arms reaffirms that cross-compatible pistol…, A global pandemic. While making any large purchase can be an anxiety-producing experience, I am happy with my Hellcat. I purchased the tritium model. I hope the market for upgrades and parts catches up. Remember me. I have since switched to Glocks for one primary reason. The New Springfield Armory Hellcat OSP 9mm w/ Shield SMSc Optic is a high capacity micro compact 9mm and the next generation of defensive pistol from Springfield Armory. In my opinion, the SIG is one of the few polymer guns I have seen that is truly aesthetically pleasing. The first is my go-to for everyday concealed carry, the Alien Gear Cloak Tuck. My friend is 6’1” and thinner than me and has no problem concealing his Glock 23 under just a baggy tshirt. One concern with purchasing a new weapon is the availability of holsters and aftermarket parts. Lost your password? I would love a full size 1911, but I would never be able to conceal it on my body. Our best 5-shot group taken at 10 yards (30 feet) with a combat stance was 1.922 inches. Ergonomics: I love the grip angle of the Hellcat and they seem to be a better fit for my large hands. The front sight includes a tritium vial for nighttime visibility with a green luminescent ring surrounding it. I currently have three holsters for the Hellcat that serve three different purposes. It is ideal for my favorite concealed carry position, behind the back at the 5 o’clock position and slightly canted. As our national situation deteriorates, being self sufficient enough to be able to replace these parts that can and do break is invaluable. Magazine floor plate is different but the frame / slide silouette sure does resemble that model. It comes with a flat-faced trigger with blade safety. Wow! I’d love to try one out and compare. When the trigger safety lever that is incorporated into the trigger is not engaged, it blocks the trigger from moving rearward. This past thanksgiving, a local store had a Black Friday special on a Smith&Wesson XD sub-compact in .45 caliber. I have tested “tactical racking” the slide with one hand utilizing the sights on my belt and square surfaces. It seems to me it is very similar to the XD line, but removing the grip safety has changed the feel quite a bit. The journey is just beginning, then! When my outdoor range finally opened up, I was able to go out for some testing. Place the trigger flat against one side of the vice jaws. Hmm, identical twin girls, hmmm. There are nuanced advantages to both designs, and it really boils down to user preference as to which profile works best for the individual. Please let others know they too can trust SurvivalBlog for the serious EDC/CCW practitioner pay to add or,... 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